hoodies in the community

[jimmy69]

i live i area with a high population of the so called hoodie culture. they cause numerous problems in are community ranging from drunken abuse to intimidating the older generation of our community which i think is not fair to the people. when approached to tone down their behaviuor you are verbally assaulted and torrent of abuse and humiliation comes your way. they constantly remind you that you cannot touch them cos their under age and if we do anything we the general public end up in the dock for assault. this not work for me as i do not bow to their threats and am more than capable of dealing with these louts of society. i find words are often more than enough to deal with them and understanding goes a long way. even tho i disagree with the way they conduct themselves i can understand their boredom as their is not much for them to do in the area and surely we as a community should take partial responsibilty for their behavior for not supporting the youth of today and encouraging them to do more with their lives :confused:

[tingnting]

In what area of England do you live..??

[jimmy69]

In what are of England do you live..??

i live in yorkshire england

[tingnting]

I live in Central London & there are hordes of them in my area.. When these young drug dealers get shot, i'm kinda glad.. i soley put the blame for these worthless pieces of **** at the door of the parents/parent

[jimmy69]

I live in Central London & there are hordes of them in my area.. When these young drug dealers get shot, i'm kinda glad.. i soley put the blame for these worthless pieces of **** at the door of the parents/parent

i have to agree wi you on the drug dealers getting shot cause in my opinion theythe poison of this society was only last week one got raided were i live. i believe get rid of the dealers and the users will disappear with them. i to think parents play a mjor role in what the youth of today turn out like think both parents and kids need educating more on the issue of drugs. i was brought up on rough estate and had some of the usual problems that users use to blame for taking drugs but i aint and never will use them. if it was upto me i'd line all the dealers up a shot the fcucking lot of them THERE SCUM

[tingnting]

jimmy, you speak mjy kinda language.. The parents are worse than there kids as they show no interest or guidance.. To me, these parents ae parasites to society..!!

[concern_citizen]

I strongly agree with you guys PARENTS and SOCIETY have a very strong influence to the behaviour of the youths today. PARENTS AND SCHOOL have a very strong effect to their kids behaviour we just have to be extra vigilant in disciplining our children but of course vice versa. WE as ADULTS have to discipline ourselves and be a role model to them.

[jimmy69]

i do believe us as parents do need to stand as role models and how we apply ourselves in life the kids will follow ie learned behaviour.we need to re-educate our selves first start understanding our kids spending more time with them. were i live most of the kids are out on a morning and parents dont have clue were they are or what they doing not saying we should keep them prisoner but that we should be able to communicate with our kids and show them right path in life. as you already know i do lot of work in community and at min i'm working with local council to get parents and kids together by arranging camping trip with both kids and parents to work together as part of a team parents and kids are up for it just having problems getting funding from council. think council prefer to have kids on street drinking been antisocial rather than promoting families BUT I AM NOT GIVING UP ON THE YOUTH OF TODAY I BELIEVE WE AS ADULTS CAN TURN IT ROUND FOR THE BETA THEY JUST NEED A CHANCE TO PROVE THEMSELVES AND SUM1 TO BELIEVE IN THEM (NOT LIKE WEN I WAS A KID)

[Jason]

What a great job you’re doing to the public, I really appreciate your work, how do you manage your time Special between work, family and public service. Is it hard for you!

I do think parents have some influence in guiding kids but in UK you know
we can’t force kids to do what we wanted them to do. Not all kids will like that, they gonna hate us, and the gap between parent and child will increase.

For e.g. say a 15 to 17 year old kids likes Rock or fast music. I know watching rock music video’s are some time bad they kind a motivate violence I am not condemning all rock music’s but some are.

Now, how do we tell the kid NOT to listen or watch those music, practically its very hard for parents to do that. The more we tell “NO” the more they do,

Some of our community parents get fed up and leave them alone.
Specially parents who are working. As you said council have some programs
to help parents but not all parents gonna attend, some they don’t have time.

[jimmy69]

What a great job you’re doing to the public, I really appreciate your work, how do you manage your time Special between work, family and public service. Is it hard for you!

I do think parents have some influence in guiding kids but in UK you know
we can’t force kids to do what we wanted them to do. Not all kids will like that, they gonna hate us, and the gap between parent and child will increase.

For e.g. say a 15 to 17 year old kids likes Rock or fast music. I know watching rock music video’s are some time bad they kind a motivate violence I am not condemning all rock music’s but some are.

Now, how do we tell the kid NOT to listen or watch those music, practically its very hard for parents to do that. The more we tell “NO” the more they do,

Some of our community parents get fed up and leave them alone.
Specially parents who are working. As you said council have some programs
to help parents but not all parents gonna attend, some they don’t have time.
i do find it hard to manage my time but i got a family who support life and goals and they get fully involved along with me and work together as a unit.

dony think its a matter of forcing them to do anything its finding their interests and working on that instead of getting them to work for us we work for them that way if we getting involved with what they like they will put more onto it.

i agree if you start telling kids wat to do then they will just do the exact opposite that why i offer suggestions to them put the ideas there and let them work on it letting them think it their ideas and give them chance to be creative you get more from them that way also rewarding for their work helps.

some parents wwill not be able to find time due to commitments that dont mean we cant get other relatives to fill in for them idea mainly is to get families closer together and get adults to understand how kids work and visa versa and meet in the middle that way there a neutral point and they will have better understanding of each other and work together

[concern_citizen]

You are doing a great job Jimmy69 and more power to you and your family. It is true the more you tell these young adults not to do things the more they disobey you. But i think it will be better for parents to get involve and give their kids some space as well for them to grow and learn by our (parents) proper guidance, understanding, love, respect and lots of communication.It has to be a two way traffic both should know how to listen and understand each other. Parents should not only talk to their children but to listen to their needs as well.

[jimmy69]

You are doing a great job Jimmy69 and more power to you and your family. It is true the more you tell these young adults not to do things the more they disobey you. But i think it will be better for parents to get involve and give their kids some space as well for them to grow and learn by our (parents) proper guidance, understanding, love, respect and lots of communication.It has to be a two way traffic both should know how to listen and understand each other. Parents should not only talk to their children but to listen to their needs as well.

i have to agree there if parents set boundries and stuck with them instead of letting kids do what they wanted as some parents do then i think that would change things and dont think some old fashioned values would go amiss dont mean beating them either tho some of them could do wi it.

to get both to understand each other is the main reason i trying to achieve wknd away for parents and kids to work together and get to know each other and what makes them tick

[concern_citizen]

It's no longer like the GOLDEN DAYS that you can just hit your kids and they will follow the rules. Nowadays children are very wise of their rights as well but why would you beat your kids if you can sort of work it out what will be best for both side and of course parents still have to be firm with them in a way that they dont suffocate or be too strict with their children. It's a give and take practice and lots of communication.

[jimmy69]

It's no longer like the GOLDEN DAYS that you can just hit your kids and they will follow the rules. Nowadays children are very wise of their rights as well but why would you beat your kids if you can sort of work it out what will be best for both side and of course parents still have to be firm with them in a way that they dont suffocate or be too strict with their children. It's a give and take practice and lots of communication.

i didnt mean beating them was thinking more along the lines of teaching them to respect their elders and that just to do something dont mean you getting paid for it, few manners would help. do agree tho we as adults have to set examples and teach them how to behave unlike families around ere drinking fighting arguing between each other thru alcohol. let the kids have their say and become opinionated and valued. were in england you from concerned_citizen. i'm in yorskshire

[concern_citizen]

I dont mean that you are suggesting that beating your kids is not appropriate what I'm trying to say is unlike before when kids do something wrong they get a slap or parents would scream and scold them and kids will not answer back as a sign of respect but nowadays it doesnt work like that kids can easily answer back and even threaten their parents of running away or even worst suing them. That is why i was saying open communication is important and giving your children a chance to have their say but of course parents or elders still have to be in control in a way that they will not push their children to the edge and become their worst enemy. I was just trying to say that when i was a young kid whenever we do something wrong we get punished by our parents and as a respect we never answer to our parents but now kids are different. So the approach long way back say 20 to 30 years ago will not just work in disciplining our children or youth today or should I say not appropriate or as effective anymore in disciplining our children/ young adults at present...

[jimmy69]

i think that kids of today know how to try and manipulate us parents and do they try and push it. the threats, blackmail only work if we let it i got 12yr old son who lives with his mam and he so tries to play us off against each other till me and his mam clicked what he was doing and joined forces to bring him back down to earth. he was punished for his actions ie took his play station away and tv then made alll him watch all his friends play out and boy did that work he been different kid since. at one stage he even tried the you cant touch me or i'll get you done so i told him go ahead then and see what happens it his choice. but i do find that if he ahs to punished then i always sit down with him and explain why he been punished which helps him understand what he done.

violence never gets you anywhere just makes things when disciplining kids we just teaching them if things dont go right then lash out its ok

[concern_citizen]

I agree with what you said jummy69 kids nowadays are very manipulative as they know what their rights are but of course we as parents should be very careful on how to deal with them. Aside from reprimanding them an open communication will help as well in disciplining our children because if you just reprimand them with no explanation it can have a bad effect on them as well. I remember my Dad used to rerpimand us and after the punishement he will call us and explain why he punished us and my brother is using the same technique to discipline his children and I proudly tell you that it does work.

[concern_citizen]

By the way Jimmy69 I dont really like your avator it makes me have bad dreams, a bit spooky :D But I'm serios:o can you change it to an angel to have a more positive impact and I wont have bad dreams thanks mate

[jimmy69]

By the way Jimmy69 I dont really like your avator it makes me have bad dreams, a bit spooky :D But I'm serios:o can you change it to an angel to have a more positive impact and I wont have bad dreams thanks mate

how this one for you it peaceful image cant find any angel ones besides angels dont really suit me even tho some ppl would disagree

[Guardianangel]

;) Hiya...I totally agree with you guys regarding the Hoodie culture thing...what do youths who wear hoodies and hang around streets do...they rob they intimidate/humiliate turn their area into a sess pit they call their manor...well I grew up In Handsworth, so did my kids...we were right in the pip..the core...saw a lot...experienced alot...my kids went to a notoriously known gang groomin school, they wear street clothes but they aint never been done for or committed no crime...have never done any of that stuff...so It is down to parents to be there for their kids...if you are there and support n guide your kids with morals etc instead of mekin them live the ghetto at home too...Parents are often away from their kids either thru work, addiction etc...so these kids end up seeking that luv elsewhere...or a need to belong/fit in so they dont get persecuted...I heard that soooo often from the youths.. sad Time the Gov started trying to stop dis ****...we goin jus like New York before Zero tolerence came in..more businesses to do wid internet****/prostitution/drugs etc etc...now...it's like Soddem & Gommorah out there and the young are being swept up. Im not an affiliated religious person but if you read Revelations...we definately goin that way..wid the climate change and the wars ...corruption in Gov/defense & police/trusted authorities/Growing gangster culture..yeah music producers of hate spreading lyrics are to blame also..
All we can do Is do our best by our kids and turn it around for the next generation...our grandkids/great grandkids... We must force the gov to accomodate the youths needs positively, provide help for parents with issues who reflect those issues on their kids a bit more...what they doin right now aint working at all, they financially restrain organisations tryin to help the underprivalged, innercity & troubled youths so they are restricted in what services they can provide, to how many & for how long...also there are an awful lot of kids out there with disorders that go unrecognised/untreated..god help us & them...:(

[tingnting]

WOW..! what a 2nd post

[Jason]

how this one for you it peaceful image cant find any angel ones besides angels dont really suit me even tho some ppl would disagree

That’s a nice picture, its far better than before

[concern_citizen]

:o Thanks Jimmy69 now I can sleep better after reading your post :)

[jimmy69]

:o Thanks Jimmy69 now I can sleep better after reading your post :)

glad to be of service CC old one was a bit naff lol

[jimmy69]

just been watchin the news and was totally shocked to learn of another teenager been stabbed to death from what i heard he was in wrong place at wrong time what is this world coming to thats seven this year and most were innocent wonder how many more innocent ppl are guna die this year

[Guardianangel]

I live in a small village in the east of England. My village seems to get worse and worse concerning children causing trouble. Only the other week a PSCO confiscated a vodka bottle from some youths who were running across the road. I don't believe there was ever as much trouble as we get now when I was younger. There would be perhaps small incidents but nothing which would cause a lot of harm. It's a shame that children seem to have no respect for their elders anymore.

In my opinion one of the main causes of the deliquance is boredom. Youths need activities to keep them occupied. And it wouldn't hurt some parents to keep a closer watch on their children either.



I agree Sueyr..I have heard it from the youths own mouths that the government dont care as more youth centres/clubs are closed due to non government funding and fundraising n grants all dried up...its a shame. I see many delapidated buildings that for a few thousand quid could be brought back to life, the rebuild work can be work shared amongst those on jobseekers/low incomes with experience of that work giving them a chance to earn some money & get some more experience & those who are retired / have their own business but want to help as part of a community project...that building could then be used as a place for youths to hang out play their music and be youths, but off the streets. Most parents dont want a house full of teenagers so they are again forced to hang out on streets..but they then get mixed up with the life of the street..and so on..we all know the issues surrounding this but we really have no support from the government..just more big brother to watch over the problem rather than try to solve some of the factors underpinning the state of the youth issues today.

[jimmy69]

hi guardianangel i do lot of work within the community and there are grants and funding available to community organisations all they gotta do is apply there are variuos agencies to which community organisations can apply there more to take into account than just funding its ffinding ppl to attend wat evere you are organising and also getting local people to help run said events. i have spent hours trying to get people interesrted (dont mean kids) to no avail. government agencies will help were they can also councillors can help. i am working with families around were i live to arrange summer activities which have proved to be a success in past. i believe it about the parents showing interest that way kids will follow thus reducing amount of antisocial behaviour it long road but communities will get there if they truly want and give the kids a chance

[concern_citizen]

I'm pretty sure their are funds for youth activities and i agree with Jimmy69 you just have to apply for it. I think it has to be two way relationship, the people in the community should help each other to come up with some projects for the youths to be pre-occupied instead of trying to get rid of them out on the street which is high risk of making troubles...SUeyr as part of that community have you ever tried to find out if there is anything you can do to help these youths in your community? The parents in your community are they interested in helping their own children to be a good member of the community? It's a teamwork govt funds and people in the community should work together, not just the system it' will always come back to all of us as responsible member of the comunity just like Jimmy69 who's trying so hard to help other members in his area...

[jimmy69]

I live in a small village in the east of England. My village seems to get worse and worse concerning children causing trouble. Only the other week a PSCO confiscated a vodka bottle from some youths who were running across the road. I don't believe there was ever as much trouble as we get now when I was younger. There would be perhaps small incidents but nothing which would cause a lot of harm. It's a shame that children seem to have no respect for their elders anymore.

In my opinion one of the main causes of the deliquance is boredom. Youths need activities to keep them occupied. And it wouldn't hurt some parents to keep a closer watch on their children either.

i agree children need more to do cause parents seem to just let kids run wild and show no interest in what their kids are doing. i like you live in a small village and deal with the same situations just think if more parents or people of the community worked with the kids instead of against them then things would improve and the kids wouldnt be bored as much. there alot of ppl around were i live who constantly moan about kids and how they are behaving so i ask them to help out running events for the kids but they always to busy or cant be bothered, i say if it bothers you that much start to do something bout it and set by example and help the kids to find summat to do you only need one to get interested and the rest will follow

[bwilsonwriter]

I think that getting rid of drug dealers is a community effort and also that needs more police involvement. Also parents can't watch their kids 24 hours still that isnt excuse for the parents not to make free time to talk to their child about the dangers of drugs and gangs.

[bwilsonwriter]

just been watchin the news and was totally shocked to learn of another teenager been stabbed to death from what i heard he was in wrong place at wrong time what is this world coming to thats seven this year and most were innocent wonder how many more innocent ppl are guna die this year

That is really shame isnt ? These teens just dying everyday and that is a reminder of how ugly and bad the world can gets.

[bwilsonwriter]

i have to agree there if parents set boundries and stuck with them instead of letting kids do what they wanted as some parents do then i think that would change things and dont think some old fashioned values would go amiss dont mean beating them either tho some of them could do wi it.

to get both to understand each other is the main reason i trying to achieve wknd away for parents and kids to work together and get to know each other and what makes them tick

Exactly, I agreed. The parents have to be involved in their children lives, and if they do then kids would have more self discipline. That is why I don't want to have kids because being a parent does take a lot and I am just not ready to take the responsibilty. IT doesn't make me a bad person because I don't want any kids, it makes me concern and a realist.

[jimmy69]

bravo wish more ppl were as considerate as you there are to many unwanted kids out there who once they can walk are near enough left to fend for themselves and the parents allow the streets to bring them up and take no responsibilty for their kids actions. if there were more ppl like you then maybe there wouldnt be as many out of control teens on the streets today

[concern_citizen]

Exactly, I agreed. The parents have to be involved in their children lives, and if they do then kids would have more self discipline. That is why I don't want to have kids because being a parent does take a lot and I am just not ready to take the responsibilty. IT doesn't make me a bad person because I don't want any kids, it makes me concern and a realist.

I do agree with you. Nobody should ever have a child if they are not ready to take the responsibility. You are being sensible, bravo!:)

[Guardianangel]

CONGRATS BWILSON...FOR KNOWING WHAT YOU DONT WANT...TOO MANY KIDS BEING BORN TO PROVIDE BENEFITS FOR PARENTS...THEY ARE PUSHED OUT THE DOOR, NO QUESTIONS ASKED, SOME PARENTS WORK LONG HOURS TO PROVIDE A NICE LIFE FOR THEIR KIDS BUT THEY HAVE TO BALANCE IT SO THAT THESE KIDS FEEL THEY HAVE A FAMILY SO THEY DONT GO & LOOK FAMILY ON THE STREET. pARENTS DO HAVE A LOT TO ANSWER FOR WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR KIDS BEHAVIOUR, MY TWO GREW IN THE 'GHETTO', THEY HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORD, HAVE MANNERS & RESPECT & ARE NOT 'OUT THERE', ITS TOOK A LOT OF EFFORT & STRESS ON MY PART TO INSTALL THE MORALS & PRINCIPLES THEY NOW HAVE, PLUS MAKIN HOME A PLACE WHERE THEY FEEL LOVED..I MAY HAVE BOUGHT THEM A LOT OF STUFF..BUT ITS STUFF THAT KEEPS THEM HOME & SAFE, THEY DONT NEED TO GO 'OUT THERE' TO FIND COMFORT, LOVE, LAUGHTER, TO WATCH A DVD, TO PLAY ON THE COMPUTER, ITS ALL HERE...& I HAVENT GOT IT FROM THE DHSS, IT WAS HARD WORK & BALANCING MY PRIORITIES...EFFORT & LOVE THATS ALL IT TAKES REALLY...IF YOUR NOT A GOOD PARENT YOU CAN GUARANTEE 90% YOUR KIDS WONT BE GOOD EITHER.

[lea]

Of course its a wise decision not to have kids if you are not ready to commit a responsibility to be a good parent, but if you do accidentally had kids you just have to do your best, ready or not ready they have to be responsible to look after their kids. Its a team work, you cant make an excuse that your are not ready!

[ddc]

Thats just it, when people have kids it isn't always planned. I.E. they just wanted to have sex.

[parise]

The only thing you need to do and continue to do is call the police. Call the police every time it is necessary to do so. Make sure you do this every single time they begin to act up. Eventually they will tone it down. Because eventually the police will get tired of coming out there because of their hoodlum ways.

[ddc]

You know that is a good idea. It would only work if the police actually shows up on time. Then you make a petition and start protesting.

[parise]

Thats a whole different situation because now you are dealing with the law and when they aren't doing their jobs it's easy to put them in line.