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If I knew someone who I thought could harm other people, but I didn't have any evidence, just a hunch, what could I do about it?
concern_citizen
17-02-07, 06:29 PM
Hi Daz
Welcome to crimeforum. Well you can still report it to the police or any local authorities in your area so they can do some investigation. Its better to be sure than be sorry and nothings wrong of being extra careful.
concern_citizen
17-02-07, 06:46 PM
your very welcome
What if he is wrong? What will happened to that accused person rights?
concern_citizen
17-02-07, 09:25 PM
Jason i didnt say that Daz should charge that person what I'm trying to say is if you are concern on something you can inform police or local authorities so they can do some investigation. For example in your area you saw a man who is roaming around and he looks suspicious isn't it safer to contact police to check that person before something bad happen. Besides questioning people doesnt mean your charge as criminal. Daz is not accusing but just being vigilant in avoiding crime to happen.
LondonBornPaddy
22-02-07, 05:05 PM
If I knew someone who I thought could harm other people, but I didn't have any evidence, just a hunch, what could I do about it?
Hope and pray they dont find out it was you..if you are wrong..its one thing to know something its another to stand up in court and face them and say what you know
concern_citizen
22-02-07, 08:09 PM
Daz, you should not be afraid. Reporting to the police will be the best way to avoid worst crime to happen. You are just being concern...
Thanks CC.
Yes but surely if I don't have any evidence, the police won't be able to do anything? Or at least they wouldn't do anything.
tingnting
02-03-07, 06:16 PM
Daz, my advice to you, & this is the best advice you're gonna get, is do nothing.. Plug in your iPod & just go from A to B without worrying about anyone else.. Somebody else's problem is not yours, so don't make it yours.. Just get to where your going & don't worry about anything else.. this is advice i wish i had taken full notice of..
Wow tingnting, I'm really impressed by that conscientious approach.
tingnting
02-03-07, 06:49 PM
Call it what you like, but i'll tell you this for nothing, it's the correct approach..!! Trust me i know first hand..!!
lol, ok. i'd be interested in knowing what your experience was to cause you to take this line. MSN?
tingnting
02-03-07, 07:03 PM
Read my very first thread. That'll tell you everything you need to know..
Everything I need to know? You are joking right? I know absolutely nothing about the background of what happened to you in that stabbing incident, who was involved, etc.
Very sorry to hear about the injury though.
tingnting
02-03-07, 07:17 PM
O.K Daz.. You go ahead & do the right thing & see how far that get's you... but don't say i didn't warn you..
There's no chance that they will harm me, if that's what you're worried about.
concern_citizen
02-03-07, 07:38 PM
I dont mean to offend you tingnting but i strongly disagree with you. That only show cowardness and being selfish. What you have done was a sign of braveness and one way or the other you will be compensated for what you have done. And to you Daz just think about what will happen if you ignore this kind of situation it might come back to you or might haunt your conscience for the rest of your life. As I have said you can always seek advice from your local police or any local organization in your area. Well I wish you luck and just be extra careful.
tingnting
02-03-07, 07:46 PM
O.K cc lets go along with your scenario of my 'braveness'.. I'll take my braveness down the market & see how many eggs i'll come back with.. My 'braveness' as you call it has cost me everything, & that includes things that can't be replaced by money.. but that's just me... Daz, you go what feels right, & i wish you luck...
Concern Citizen - I would agree with you about the 'coming back to me' or 'haunting my conscience' bit.
I've already spoken to an ex-police officer about this but he has offered me little in the way of real advice.
You say a local organisation might be able to help - which one exactly?
concern_citizen
03-03-07, 12:55 AM
Bravery cannot be compare to any amount of money or how much you can get from it. Bravery is something that a person will do in any case of emergency or just by helping other people or fight any kind of crime in our society. Bravery is more than what a money can buy. I'm not saying that if there is a risk you should be out there and risk your life but just being unselfish is also one kind of being brave. Just like what is Daz going through its very brave to go out your way and try to avoid a possible crime that might happen. Risking your life is not the only meaning of being brave. Daz the ex-police advice might not be very helpful but that is why I advice you to go to police dept to enquire about what you think. Local council in your area might be able to direct your enquiry to a proper services that deals with this kind of situation. I still believed that reporting it to your local police will not be harmful but it will be safer for you and for those people who you think will be in danger.
tingnting
03-03-07, 01:59 PM
Doing the right thing is not always the best thing...!!!
concern_citizen
04-03-07, 06:56 AM
Well it depends on how you define "best thing". Doing good thing to other people will always be one of the best thing that we can do to achieve peace and order in our society...!!!!
tingnting
04-03-07, 05:29 PM
cc, have you been stabbed in the chest with a 13" blade recently, & what the hell are you doing posting so early on a Sunday morning..???
Daz, my advice to you, & this is the best advice you're gonna get, is do nothing.. Plug in your iPod & just go from A to B without worrying about anyone else.. Somebody else's problem is not yours, so don't make it yours.. Just get to where your going & don't worry about anything else.. this is advice i wish i had taken full notice of..
Well, I have heard many people saying the same words as tingnting said.
I just wanted to know why you said those words? Is it because you don’t want others
to get hurt? or something else?
concern_citizen
05-03-07, 10:00 AM
cc, have you been stabbed in the chest with a 13" blade recently, & what the hell are you doing posting so early on a Sunday morning..???
I know how you feel and I do understand what you feel i dont need to get stabbed. Just like you i have my own fears and problem in life and guess what coming into crimeforum makes me feel better. Reading different peoples opinion, ideas and their experiences help me realize that each and evryone have their own ordeal in life so i should not give up on helping and doing something good to make our place a better world to live in. I enjoy coming to crimeforum to share my thoughts, advice and experience to other people and hope that it will help them.
Daz, my advice to you, & this is the best advice you're gonna get, is do nothing.. Plug in your iPod & just go from A to B without worrying about anyone else.. Somebody else's problem is not yours, so don't make it yours.. Just get to where your going & don't worry about anything else.. this is advice i wish i had taken full notice of..
I am from south London, one of my cousin was in the same position like you, he had a fight with a robber and he got hurt very badly he also says the say thing as you saying.
Yeah well June, I can understand that. Some people think they have to play the hero and do the most silly things in those situations. No wonder they get hurt. Not saying that robberies are right, they are not.
Serious
07-03-07, 05:58 PM
If I knew someone who I thought could harm other people, but I didn't have any evidence, just a hunch, what could I do about it?
heh
you ain't right
evidence?
you sound like a snitch
what could you do about it?
anything you want
what SHOULD you do?
mind your own business
why do people think they have to tell on other people
are they doing anything to you?
leave it alone if thay ain't
If we keep minding our own business what will happen to the innocent
People? Robbers will have a more power and they will do what ever they want thinking that no one will try to stop them.
Serious
07-03-07, 07:32 PM
that theory is insane
there are jobs that employ people to deal with crime
not citizens
now if you are trying to help somebody that you see needs help
that's a different scene
I'm talking about people who just think they need to be the moral and scruple police dept
and call and report what they say somebody shouldn't be doing
not knowing the real deal
What u mean by “that theory is insane”
I am not saying that u should take the law in your own hands my friend. Of course there are people to do that job.
In case of an emergency police will not be near you, only a citizen will be. So if you want to help you can help in many different ways. Calling a police also a help ok!!
so just don’t tell it’s not your business
like Tingtins said it can happen to your own relative will u keep minding your own business that time too?
Serious
07-03-07, 08:36 PM
the theory of citizens thinking they should ...should..get involved..again keyword is should
not if it's a scene like you just said
which I think I said too
if I came onto a scene where someone needed help then yes you help
but if they don't ..need...immediate help..let it be and it will end up however it ends up
it's not your business
if I had my old lady out and somebody was trying to do something to her?
hell
they better think twice if she didn't kill them i would
she packs
she ain't no joke
I got her the gun
and know she's dead on
the point is
you have to keep in mind if you start minding other peoples business
you may get something you don't need or want
then it's too late
concern_citizen
07-03-07, 11:13 PM
Well i agree with SERIOUS that there are people who are employed to deal with crimes but it doesnt mean that we will just ignore or just be quiet when you witness a crime, as part of the community innocent people/ concern citizen should do their part like reporting crimes to the police because as JASON was saying if we ignore bad things that is happening around then it will just get worst and those crime offenders will just feel more powerful. Minding other people's business is just showing that we care and helping authorities to fight crimes.
This thread has spiralled out of control. Too many different issues being discussed here at once.
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